• VampMode

• *FORUM (particularly VampMode)

• CB
• CONNECT
• Clover

• ConnectII

• Phoenix (now Gangplank): refused access (had Deven allowed me to write a client for Phoenix lily would have never existed).

While Nexus may be dead, there are a few (currently) independants working on reimplementing lily on top of something other than MOO, primarily to make it easier to do/coordinate server development. see the -lily3 discussion on RPI core. JoshWilmes^?, JohnRedford^? have both worked on implementations in other languages. Also, Rowboat (written by ThePrisoner^?) provides most of lily's functionality (though it is not a dropin replacmenet), implemented on top of .

-- CoKe - 03 Nov 2003

• Gangplank

• Phoenix (now Gangplank): refused access (had Deven allowed me to write a client for Phoenix lily would have never existed).

I don't recall ever refusing access to write a client for Phoenix, although no specific client-server protocol existed. I did refuse to allow anyone else to join me in server development; at the time, I wanted to retain complete control over the server and have it be 100% written by me. That's why it was a closed-source project. Eventually, I renamed the system to Gangplank and released the source code. It was probably a mistake not to open up the project more in the beginning, as Phoenix probably would have easily taken over from Clover if lily never existed. Oh well, hindsight is 20/20.

As for Nexus, it is a long story indeed. The short version is that it was a joint project between Christian and myself, with Gordon Goldberg involved as a mediator and facilitator. The plan was to use the Phoenix source code as a robust foundation for a new CMC system, and basically reimplement lily on top of it, discarding the underlying MOO platform. We got far enough to choose a name (and "Nexus" is still my favorite CMC name to date), and for a while it seemed like the project would happen. However, Christian wanted full authority and primary coding responsibility for server-side code, which I did not agree with. Ultimately, the project fell apart due to disputes over our respective roles in the project, despite Gordon's valiant efforts to keep it together. I suppose the project could be revived (anything's possible), but for now it's dead, and I guess it's all my fault.

-- DevenCorzine - 03 Nov 2003

• CLoverUserEnvironment^?: worked on
• EclipseParser^?: studied
• TuringsTears^?: designed, never implemented
• Eyes: studied
• Omni: worked on
• CloverSystemSummerProject^?: designed, never implemented
• Phonenix (now Gangplank): refused access (had Deven allowed me to write a client for Phoenix lily would have never existed).
• Lily: a multiprotocol client
• lily: strictly for timing, this fits here
• Nexus: this is a long story if ever there was one.
• lilyCore: this goes here

christian

• VampMode
• AcmCB^?
• AcmConnect^?
• CloverProject

Cousins:

• ConnectII

Offspring: