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  Lily    AIM    YIM   MSN Msg   IRC   Jabber feature
- - - - X X   login with no prior account
- X X X X X   entirely self-service account creation
X - - - - ?   addressable public name separate from account name
X - - - - ?   public name reservation
X 6 X X 2 6   authenticated connections
- X ? ? - X   secure (non trivially obfuscated) authentication available
X - ? ? 2 ?   encrypted connections
- X ? ? - ?   authenticated conversations (server can not MITM)
1 X ? ? 1 ?   encrypted conversations (server can not eavesdrop)
X - - - X ?   supports multitarget messages
X - - - - ?   preserves addressing in multitarget messages
X X X 1 X ?   private messages
X - - - - ?   persistent discussions
X - - - X ?   searchable discussions
X X X X X ?   unsearchable discussions
X - - - - ?   notification of discussion creation
X - - - X ?   membership-moderated discussions
? - - - X ?   voice-moderated discussions
X X X X X ?   notification when users join/part discussions
- X X X X ?   list of members can be hidden from nonmembers
X - - - X ?   list of members can be made available to nonmembers
X - - - - X   review buffers for private messages
X - - - - ?   review buffers for discussions
X - - - - ?   searchable review buffers
X X - - 2 ?   built-in games
X - - - - ?   user memos
X X X X - ?   user info/profile
X 4 X X 5 X   reliable presence notification/state tracking
? X X X - ?   ability to selectively block state tracking
- X X X - ?   ability to selectively block state polling
X - - - 2 ?   discussion memos
- X X X ? ?   searchable by google desktop
X X X X X X   console client available
X X X X X X   GUI client available
X X X ? ? ?   browser applet client available
1 X ? ? 1 ?   DCC (direct client to client) messages
X - - - X X   self-contained private community server
X - - - X X   server source code available
X - - - 2 ?   runtime upgradable server
X - - - 3 ?   responsive, courteous, professional developers

[1] Not directly provided by the protocol, but not prohibited either; known to be supported by at least one client.

[2] Not specified by the protocol, but not prohibited either; known to be supported by at least one server.

[3] No direct support channel has been established for any major IRC networks, but their [network's] developers don't hide.

[4] Users added to your "buddy list" are tracked reliably unless they opt to enable the "Invisibility" feature.

[5] Only users that are in at least one common discussion are tracked reliably relative to each other.

[6] AIM and Jabber accounts can be "federated", allowing uncontrolled end sites to authenticate namespaced accounts (typically presented in the form of an email address).

See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_instant_messengers and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_instant_messaging_protocols.

FeaturesThatMustExistInAnyLilyReplacement - If we were to replace lily with another server, what would we have to do?

-- JeffR - 13 Jan 2006

This table could have a feature-row for "user status", but that covers so many different things. "Here/away", user blurbs, "current itunes song" (in iChat). By "status" I mean features that track some dynamically-changing attribute for users (and discussions?). These being a separate matter from static user-info, such as the values in /info or /finger (which in lily now even includes locations !).

And I'm sure we could easily add more columns to this. There's rowboat for one, which several long-time lily users have worked on (off-and-on) for a long time. There's apparently also JMS (which I know nothing about), as mentioned at http://jdj.sys-con.com/read/171024.htm .

I think it's kind of awkward to build/maintain a table like this in TWiki, although after a few rounds of trial-and-error I think I've come up with a way to reformat the source of this page. It should now a bit easier to modify entries the table.

Wouldn't that last entry be
   "professional developers, who sometimes take years to make an official release"
?

-- GaranceDrosehn - 13 Jan 2006
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