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Lily.LilyGenealogyr1.8 - 26 Feb 2006 - 16:27 - ChristopherMastotopic end

Direct parentage, mostly the work of members of the [[RPI-ACM]]:
   * VampMode
   * [[CB]]
   * [[CONNECT]]
   * [[Clover]]

Cousins:
   * [[ConnectII]]
   * [[Gangplank]]

Offspring:

In addition to those listed above, the following projects, which I studied or worked on, had a significant influence on lily:

   * CLoverUserEnvironment: worked on
   * EclipseParser: studied
   * TuringsTears: designed, never implemented
   * Eyes: studied
   * Omni: worked on
   * CloverSystemSummerProject: designed, never implemented
   * [[Phoenix]] (now [[Gangplank]]): refused access (had Deven allowed me to write a client for Phoenix lily would have never existed).
   * Lily: a multiprotocol client
   * lily: strictly for timing, this fits here
   * Nexus: this is a long story if ever there was one.
   * lilyCore: this goes here

-- Main.ChristianRatliff

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I don't recall ever refusing access to write a _client_ for Phoenix, although no specific client-server protocol existed.  I did refuse to allow anyone else to join me in _server_ development; at the time, I wanted to retain complete control over the server _and_ have it be 100% written by me.  That's why it was a closed-source project.  Eventually, I renamed the system to [[Gangplank]] and released the source code.  It was probably a mistake not to open up the project more in the beginning, as Phoenix probably would have easily taken over from [[Clover]] if lily never existed.  Oh well, hindsight is 20/20.

As for Nexus, it is a long story indeed.  The short version is that it was a joint project between Christian and myself, with Main.GordonGoldberg involved as a mediator and facilitator.  The plan was to use the [[Phoenix]] source code as a robust foundation for a new [[CMC]] system, and basically reimplement lily on top of it, discarding the underlying MOO platform.  We got far enough to choose a name (and "Nexus" is still my favorite CMC name to date), and for a while it seemed like the project would happen.  Ultimately, the project fell apart due to disagreements over our respective roles in the project, despite Gordon's valiant efforts to keep it together.  I suppose the project _could_ be revived (anything's possible), but for now it's dead, and I guess it's all my fault. :-)

-- Main.DevenCorzine - 03 Nov 2003

While Nexus may be dead, there are a few (currently) independents working on reimplementing lily on top of something other than MOO, primarily to make it easier to do/coordinate server development. see the -lily3 discussion on RPI core. JoshWilmes, JohnRedford have both worked on implementations in other languages. Also, Rowboat (written by Main.ThePrisoner) provides most of lily's functionality (though it is not a dropin replacmenet), implemented on top of [[http://www.flow.net/ Flow]].

-- Main.CoKe - 03 Nov 2003

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